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Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  scott1328 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:02 pm

Someone announced the creation of another Atheism+ forum at the SCSS. Interestingly is is hosted on FreeForum under the name this forum used to use.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3707

It is being met with nothing but hostility and derision.

This might be justified since it doesn't since the one and only posting is a jab at the SCSS.

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Re: Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  nullnvoid on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:47 pm

I wouldn't engage too strongly on the A+ thread (there's no need to defend us) - but hey...I'm grateful to Hyperdeath for the free publicity. I want to point out a couple of things:

1) to fail, would require a goal not achieved. I kept my goals low...and I already see this place as a success.

2) I wan't to point out that a rejection of the atheism+ forum, is not the same thing as rejecting the concept of social justice or a declaration that you don't care about secular justice issues.

3) people often fail to comprehend when they join that site that Atheism+ forum isn't a place where different viewpoints are valued. The Atheism+ movement has a core set of tenets that cannot be questioned. I made that movement initially - and thought that Atheism+ could potentially be a good rallying point for positive action. I don't think that's what Atheism+ is becoming.

4) we're not part of the Atheism+ movement - we're a bunch of people who are interested in social justice issues who are trying to sort the issues out into a form that can be defined. We're not there yet - but we're trying to start from first principles. IF that sounds interesting, crimson - you're more than welcome to join here.

5) notice and learn from the use of loaded terms. Hyperdeath said we had "weak moderation" which has a bad connotation, rather than loose moderation or minimal moderator interference which would have better connotation. This type of language use speaks volumes.

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Re: Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  uncrystal on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:02 pm

I found this part of hyperdeath's comment interesting..

It has largely turned into an anti Atheism Plus forum, due to the weak moderation.

(emphasis mine)

As if people are "anti A+" because the mods here allow them to be. If the mods were more "censorious, capricious and biased" everyone would be "pro A+"?

I despise this idea that someone who disagrees with you just doesn't "get" what you mean or doesn't understand a litany of topics you're a expert on. There is no room for others to disagree with your premise or your method and remain a respectable person.

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Re: Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  nullnvoid on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:05 pm

uncrystal wrote:As if people are "anti A+" because the mods here allow them to be. If the mods were more "censorious, capricious and biased" everyone would be "pro A+"?

Well...everyone who hadn't been banned or shut their mouth would be. Evil or Very Mad

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Re: Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  uncrystal on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:09 pm

nullnvoid wrote:
uncrystal wrote:As if people are "anti A+" because the mods here allow them to be. If the mods were more "censorious, capricious and biased" everyone would be "pro A+"?

Well...everyone who hadn't been banned or shut their mouth would be. Evil or Very Mad

Exactly. So are they simply banning everyone who is "anti-A+" and burying their heads' in the sand and pretending such people don't exist?

Yay rationality!

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Re: Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  Atheist Dude on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:16 pm

uncrystal wrote:I found this part of hyperdeath's comment interesting..

It has largely turned into an anti Atheism Plus forum, due to the weak moderation.

(emphasis mine)

As if people are "anti A+" because the mods here allow them to be. If the mods were more "censorious, capricious and biased" everyone would be "pro A+"?

I despise this idea that someone who disagrees with you just doesn't "get" what you mean or doesn't understand a litany of topics you're a expert on. There is no room for others to disagree with your premise or your method and remain a respectable person.


If I ever acted like that, do me a favor and cuff me upside the head. Seriously, I'd deserve it!
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Re: Another Atheism+ alternate forum

Post  scott1328 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:01 pm

The last thing I intended was to launch another complaint thread about the SCSS.

Did you all notice this?

http://atheismplus.freeforums.org/index.php

Is this a parody forum? Who is Crimson?

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